i don't think anybody in the state of nevada or the united states wants to continue overpayments to insurance companies but by restricting and ending those overpayments we extended the life of medicare by nine years. >> the interesting thing about your opponent is he voted for the early version of the ryan plan which is the more aggressive which would have turned all of medicare for those under 55 into the voucher program. he voted for the second version which was the more moderate version. he has a strange record on this. >> well, look. there's a lot to do with political expediency. he voted twice, not once to turn it over. that's not going to work in this state. >> the reason i played that clip is because dean heller realized the second time he ended up passing the ryan budget he realized he had to run for re-election. he didn't vote for the ryan budget. even though it moved to the left. it offers seniors a choice. to me, if you're going to say what happened a month ago that switched things, i think it's ryan. i think ryan on the ticket has made this -- and for some reason strategically rep